Jesus Christ is NOT God, neither is GOD, Jesus Christ!

God is not Jesus Christ

We already know that Jesus Christ is not God. Sure, Jesus Christ is not God, right? You couldn't be fooled into thinking Jesus Christ is God, could you? No, of course not. Well, who exactly is the Lord then? What am I talking about? Brace yourself, for there is some astonishing new light on the way.

First, we need to define our terms. We need to understand exactly and precisely what the word lord means in the bible. In the old testament, the word lord is translated from the Hebrew word adon, while in the new testament it is translated from the Greek word kurios.

The Hebrew word adon means one who has absolute control. It denotes a master, a ruler, a top boss, one who has supreme authority. The Greek word kurios is from kuros meaning supremacy. Kurios is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word adon and means one with authority, a master, a ruler. To give us a taste for what the word lord means in the bible, let's look at a few examples.

Genesis 24:14
And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: let the same be she that thou hast appointed for thy servant Isaac; and thereby shall I know that thou hast shewed kindness unto my master [adon - lord].

Abraham's servant referred to his master as lord because Abraham was his master, his ruler. There may have been many managers under Abraham within his household, but Abraham was the top manager, the chief ruler, the master over his household, the lord. In the following example, Joseph refers to himself as lord of Pharaoh's house.

Genesis 45:8 So now it was not you that sent me hither, but God: and he hath made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord [adon] of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt.

Joseph was not the lord of Egypt, he was only the lord of Pharaoh's house. In other words, he conducted all Pharaoh's personal and business affairs for him, and everyone in Pharaoh's household would have answered to him.

In both of these instances, men are called lords. Adon and kurios simply mean top boss, supreme ruler, chief master. Abraham was his servant's lord because Abraham was a patriarch, the head over all his household. Pharaoh made Joseph lord over all his house. Lord simply means top boss. If you work for a company, the top man at the head of the company is the lord, the top boss. There may be many managers under him, but the top man is the lord over all the employees of that company. There is even an example in Genesis of a married woman calling her husband her lord.

Genesis 18:12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord [adon] being old also?

From this we can see that the word lord does not mean God. It is in fact a very human word as common in the bible as boss is in English. Lord simply refers to the most senior executive, manager or administrator in charge of anything. It is a human title given to men. Adon, lord, is also a very common name in the bible. Adonibezek for example simply means lord of bezek.

Judges 1:6,7 But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes.

And Adonibezek said, Threescore and ten kings, having their thumbs and their great toes cut off, gathered their meat under my table: as I have done, so God hath requited me. And they brought him to Jerusalem, and there he died.

Consider this record in Matthew, carefully noting the usage of the word lord, kurios.

Matthew 18:23-35 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord [kurios] commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord [kurios], have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

Then the lord [kurios] of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord [kurios] all that was done.

Then his lord [kurios], after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

And his lord [kurios] was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

It is clear then that the word lord in the bible does not mean God, it means boss. Calling God lord is simply calling him boss, that's all. Lord is a very human word meaning supreme master or ruler.

As an aside, note that this section of scripture implies that unless we forgive others God will not forgive us. This was true in the old testament, of which the four gospels are a part, but it is not true in this Administration of the Mystery, the Age of Grace. Our forgiveness is no longer dependent on anything we do, it is dependent on what Jesus Christ did for us.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Colossians 2:13,14 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This is a good example of how important it is to recognise and interpret scripture according to whom it was written while understanding the differences between administrations. Now, although this doesn't apply directly to us today, can we learn anything from it? Sure, my forgiveness from God and my eternal life may not be dependent on my forgiveness of others, but it is a good way to live and enjoy fellowship with God and my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Ephesians 4:31,32 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

In this Administration of the Mystery we don't forgive in order to be forgiven by God, we forgive because God has already forgiven us.

So, we can safely assume that the word lord, adon in Hebrew and kurios in Greek, is not a specific name of God like elohim and Jehovah. Now, this is where things become a little more interesting. The phrase Lord thy God in the old testament is so common that we hardly notice it when reading the bible, like these two verses for example.

Exodus 20:2 I am the LORD [Jehovah] thy God, [elohim] which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Deuteronomy 2:7 For the LORD [Jehovah] thy God [elohim] hath blessed thee in all the works of thy hand: he knoweth thy walking through this great wilderness: these forty years the LORD [Jehovah] thy God [elohim] hath been with thee; thou hast lacked nothing.

The funny thing is, the word lord is not adon at all, it is the word Jehovah, God. Elohim, translated God would be more accurately understood as creator. Every time you see LORD in all capitals in the old testament of the King James version it is the word Jehovah, it is absolutely not the word adon. So why was Jehovah translated as lord and not God? Ladies and gentlemen, this is a forgery of breathtaking proportions.

Thankfully, the all capitals are still there in the old testament of the KJV so we can readily see this. Where the translators employed LORD it does not mean lord at all, it means God. Jehovah is God in relationship to his creation, while elohim is God as the creator. This is fundamentally important. The phrase LORD thy God would be better understood as God thy creator. Okay, now check with care this verse from Luke.

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord [kurios] thy God [theos], and him only shalt thou serve.

Here the Greek clearly uses the words kurios and theos for Lord thy God. This is actually a quote from the old testament, so let's compare them.

Deuteronomy 6:13a Thou shalt fear [worship] the LORD [Jehovah] thy God [elohim], and serve him,

Now isn't this remarkable. The quote in Luke 4:8 contradicts the verse in the old testament from which it came. The old testament scripture states in the Hebrew thousands of years before Luke was written that we are to serve the LORD [Jehovah] our God [elohim]. So the word kurios in Luke is a forgery because adon does not exist in the original scripture. The original texts read thou shalt worship the Jehovah thy elohim and him only shalt thou serve. Kurioser and kurioser, so how did kurios get into Luke? I don't know. Nor is this an isolated case. Check out these usages of kurios as lord in regards to angels.

Matthew 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord [kurios] had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

Matthew 2:19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord [kurios] appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt,

Luke 1:11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord [kurios] standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

Acts 5:19 But the angel of the Lord [kurios] by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said,

These verses all clearly state that these were angels of the kurios, angels of the lord. Now compare the verses with a few from the old testament.

Genesis 16:7 And the angel of the LORD [Jehovah] found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

Genesis 22:11 And the angel of the LORD [Jehovah] called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.

Numbers 22:25 And when the ass saw the angel of the LORD [Jehovah], she thrust herself unto the wall, and crushed Balaam's foot against the wall: and he smote her again.

Judges 2:1 And an angel of the LORD [Jehovah] came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

In the old testament, an angel is always called an angel of Jehovah, an angel of God, never an angel of adon, an angel of the lord. As the old testament scriptures predate those of the new by thousands of years in some cases, we must understand that the word kurios in the Greek when applied to angels is a forgery. Angels are angels of God, not angels of the lord. Translating Jehovah as LORD is a forgery. Jehovah means God. Let's consider a few other similar examples.

John 12:38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord [kurios], who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord [kurios] been revealed?

John 12 quotes Isaiah and uses kurios twice. Let's look at the scripture in Isaiah and compare them.

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD [Jehovah] revealed?

Well, will you look at that? No sign of the Hebrew word adon at the start of the verse, and the word LORD is Jehovah. It would appear that both occurrences of the words lord in John 12 were simply not there in the original Hebrew texts of the old testament. To further corroborate this discovery, let's look at a prophecy from the book of Joel which is quoted in the book of Acts.

Acts 2:20,21 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord [kurios] come:

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord [kurios] shall be saved.

Now compare them with the originals from Joel.

Joel 2:31,32 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD [Jehovah] come.

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD [Jehovah] shall be delivered:

Although the Greek word kurios is employed in Acts, the original word when the bible was first written was Jehovah not adon. Simply put, the bible has been massively and criminally tampered with to fool us into thinking that God is our lord when he is no such thing. Let's compare a few more scriptures, just to satisfy ourselves that these are not a few isolated or coincidental occurrences.

Acts 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord [kurios] always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

Psalm 16:8 I have set the LORD [Jehovah] always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.

Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord [kurios] your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

Deuteronomy 18:15 The LORD [Jehovah] thy God [elohim] will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Acts 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord [kurios], and against his Christ.

Psalm 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD [Jehovah], and against his anointed,

Acts 7:31 When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold it, the voice of the Lord [kurios] came unto him,

Exodus 3:4 And when the LORD [Jehovah] saw that he turned aside to see, God [elohim] called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I

It is abundantly clear that God was not called lord in the old testament, he was most commonly called God, Jehovah, and the creator, elohim. As if that wasn't enough, compare the following verse in Mark with the original scripture in Deuteronomy.

Mark 12:29,30 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord [kurios] our God is one Lord [kurios]:

And thou shalt love the Lord [kurios] thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Deuteronomy  6:4,5
Hear, O Israel: The LORD [Jehovah] our God is one LORD [Jehovah]:

And thou shalt love the LORD [Jehovah] thy God [elohim] with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Jesus Christ knew who God was and he would not have made the simple mistake of misquoting scripture. I do not believe Jesus Christ misquoted those scriptures, therefore these usages of kurios in Mark must be more recent forgeries. Is it any wonder the Vatican locks away the oldest manuscripts in its vaults so we can't see what they've been up to?

Before we move on, check this verse in Acts quoting Psalms which unbelievably capitalises kurios.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD [kurios] said unto my Lord [kurios], Sit thou on my right hand,

Psalm 110:1 The LORD [Jehovah] said unto my Lord [adon], Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Amazingly the King James translators knew there was a problem with this verse and capitalised this usage of kurios knowing full well it should have been translated as God, not lord. This is remarkable and really quite shocking. Can you see just how deeply the devil has rooted this forgery into the thinking of God's people?

Now, what do you suppose the translators would have done had they came across adon and Jehovah in the same verse and both usages referred to God? Well, we can easily find out because there are a number of such verses. Here is one in Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 33:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord [adonai] GOD [Jehovah], I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Isn't that something? Here they translated Jehovah correctly as God because they couldn't possibly get away with translating the verse as the Lord LORD.

I suppose most would say it doesn't matter. Well, the accuracy of the word does matter, it is the opinions of men that don't matter. God is not our lord. He is our God, he is our father, he is our creator, he is the almighty, he is many things, but he is not our lord. Nowhere in Paul's epistles is God specifically called our lord. Yet all over the world people pray to the lord, they bow to the lord, they worship the lord, they do everything to the lord, but God is not our lord. So who is our lord then? Let's go see.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

2 John 3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

It is clear in scripture that Jesus Christ is not God. It is now also clear in scripture that God is not Jesus Christ either. If people all over the world have been conditioned to worship the lord, they have been conditioned to worship a man. This is rather important, as we shall soon see.

Fellowship with God as our Father!

Fellowship with the Father

1 John 1:3

That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

The epistle of 1st John is written to born again believers regarding fellowship with the Father, with His son, Jesus Christ, and with other like minded believers in His family.

The Greek word translated "fellowship" is "koinonia." Although almost always translated as "fellowship," "koinonia" is also translated as "communion," "contribution," "distribution," and "communicate or communication." The basic meaning of the word koinonia is to "SHARE one with another."

You cannot have a family (Father and son) sharing relationship with God until you first have "sonship."

Romans 10:9-10

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

A person who confesses Jesus as Lord and believes God raised him from the dead receives holy spirit from God making him or her a child of God. This begins a family relationship and starts a person out in a perfect, full sharing, fellowship with God.

1 John 3:1-2a

Behold what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, . . .

As a son of God, a person is made righteous in Christ Jesus. Sonship is eternal. It is God's seed in you. You are His child and He is your Father forever. This wonderful family relationship is made available through the accomplished work of the Lord Jesus Christ who bridged the spiritual gap between God and man.

Just as sonship is available through the work of Christ, continued fellowship with God requires the continuing work of Christ as he intercedes for us at the right hand of the Father.

1 John 1:4

And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

Fellowship with God as our Father is the secret to spiritual happiness and power in our day-by-day walk. Fellowship makes the family life a happy one. Sustained fellowship depends upon renewing our minds to the truth of God's Word and walking in light of that Word. God's Word is God's Will. If you are going to have a full sharing relationship with the Father you must walk according to His Word.

When we fail to walk according to God's Word we are no longer in a full sharing relationship with the Father.

1 John 1:6-7

If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Failure to walk in fellowship with our Father, God, is sin. It does not break the family relationship any more than if you as a son or daughter are not on good terms with your earthly father. If a son does not obey his father he is still his father's son; but the joy is taken out of the relationship. God's will is that our joy and fellowship with Him be FULL. 1st John is written that we might better sustain our relationship with God and share fully with Him at all times.

1 John 2:1

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

And he is the propitiation [payment] for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

When we fail to walk according to God's Word, Jesus Christ acts as our advocate to bring us back to a full sharing relationship with our Father. He is the payment for the sins of the whole world making sonship available. He is also the payment for our failure to walk in fellowship as sons of God. He pleads our case before the Father and brings us back into that sweet Father and son fellowship that God so desires.

1 John 3:20-22

For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

When a son fails to walk in fellowship with God, he is not able to get prayers answered. God is not unwilling to answer His son's prayer, but the failed relationship on the part of the son leaves his confidence in God shaky and uncertain. When we do those things that are pleasing in our Father's sight with a heart locked in fellowship with God, we receive of him whatsoever we ask because we have confidence that we are walking according to His Word.

1 John 5:14-15

And this is the confidence that we have in him, that if we ask anything according to his will, he heareth us:

And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

When the Word of God dwells richly in us, we have a full sharing relationship with the Father. As we believe and act according to God's Word, our joy is full and our lives are rich and abundant because our fellowship with the Father is strong. When our fellowship with God is strong we have confidence toward Him and receive whatsoever we ask because we know His will and we are living according to His Word.

Predestination - Freewill:

Truth and Error:  
There’s a lot of misconceptions that get people to the point of blaming God for all the evil that happens in the world. First of all, I John 1:5 says that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. When God’s Word says” no darkness” that should be enough but to emphasis the point “at all” is added. People getting killed is darkness; murder is darkness. Hebrews 2:14 says the devil has the power of death. So, why does God always get the blame.
 Well, people say, “If God is all powerful and all knowing how can He allow this to happen.” True, God is all powerful and all knowing. But, when God gave other beings freedom of will He limited His interaction with man. When he gave free will, the potential to make wrong decisions and do the wrong thing becomes available. Why freewill? Because, God wanted fellowship. God is love. His desire is not only to love but to have that love to experience and share with others. You can’t program someone to love. Love can only be had when an individual by his freedom of will decides to love. So, in order for Him to have fellowship with others, who could love Him in return, He had to give us freedom of will. Consequently, God has no hands with which to show His love but our hands.
 Also, people don’t realize that the devil is the god of this world. 2 Corinthians 4:4 says that the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ should shine unto them. Adam originally had God-given dominion of the world. But, in Luke 4:5 & 6 it says the devil showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and said, “All this power will I give you, and the glory of them; for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.” Well, who delivered it to him It wasn’t God. God gave it to Adam. Adam delivered it to him. That’s how cataclysmic Adam’s sin was. Now, the devil has control of the powers that be in this world. Except for those who are saved - because it says we were bought back with a price. Bought back from who? The power of Satan and all his devil spirits. Jesus Christ paid the price and the devil has no more dominion over us.
 Another point, because of freedom of will God can do nothing unless His Word is believed. When an individual sees a promise in God’s Word and believes, God has to bring it to pass. He has to keep His Word. God will never deny His Word. But, without believing His hands are tied because of freedom of will. He can’t control you or possess you. You have to believe. Isaiah 55:17 says, “No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper.” Believe that and God will bring it to pass. Romans 8:31 says, “If God be for us who can be against us.” That’s where our believing has to be.
 God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. God wants the very best for us. The devil has the power of death and has dominion of the world. So, let’s take that dominion away by believing God’s Word and enabling God’s power to be evident in our lives.
 Never blame God! God is light and in Him is NO darkness AT ALL. None. Job lost all his children and his business in one day. After that, he had boils from head to toe for approximately 6 months. Yet, he never charged God foolishly. God is all good and the devil is all bad.  
God gets the blame when people die. They say God took them. Hebrews 2:14 says the devil has the power of death.  
When bad happens to a person. They say God is testing them. James 1:13 says God cannot be tempted neither does He tempt any man. To test someone is to tempt them to do evil. If He were testing people that would be darkness.  
People get sick and they say it's God's will. III John 2 says God wishes above all things that we be in health and prosper. Why did Jesus go around healing every one. I haven't seen one record where he made someone sick. If it was God's will to get sick then we ought to do God's will and do our best to get sick. Get's silly when you think about it logically.  
When people start thinking God is doing these things many times they turn away from God. Romans 2:4 says the goodness of God leads men to repentance. It's the devil that does these things and he's tricked people into blaming God for it. Stop letting the devil win and start seeing how good, loving and merciful our God really is. When you do this you will be like Job and never charge God foolishly. Your love for God will flourish!!!
 The decisions we make determine our successes and our failures. If we fail, it is our fault, not Gods.
 If the god of this world can get us to just accept defeat because we think it was meant to be, then he wins and we lose.
 Here is the Word of God! Take it or leave it, yet please choose wisely:  
Believing UNTO salvation! 
  Romans 10:9,10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved [sōzō]. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  
Confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts are decisions we make. Without believing and confessing as stipulated in Romans 10:9, we would not receive the gift of holy spirit, we would not be clothed with power from on high. 
The receiving of the gift of holy spirit is entirely conditional on us carrying out the instruction given in Romans 10:9. When we confess with our mouths Jesus as Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead, we are saved (Greek sōzō), made whole, referring to once again being complete, being whole, with body, soul and spirit. Does God force us to believe? No. God never forces anyone to do anything. He gave us freedom of will and it is up to us whether we choose to believe God and his word or not.  
There are a number of important keys to the word's interpretation, and one of them is that a scripture must be in harmony with all the other scriptures relating to the same subject. If we have many clear verses on a subject and one apparently contradictory verse, do we ignore the many clear verses and focus solely on the unclear verse? Not if we are interested in an honest handling of the word of God, we don't. Here are a few scriptures that clearly teach that God is no respecter of persons.  
Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.  
Ephesians 6:9 ...neither is there respect of persons with him.  
1 Timothy 2:3,4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.  
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  
Without labouring the point, God isn't fussy about whom he chooses.  
In short, predestination as it is understood today destroys people. It gives people excuses for their failures. Instead of taking responsibility for their failed marriages, businesses, families, health, and everything else in their lives, they come up with all sorts of excuses and blame it all on God. It was predestined and they had nothing to do with it. Folks are taught they have no control, that everything is meant to be. So they blame their failed marriages on God, they blame their failed businesses on God, they blame their failed health on God, because it was all meant to be. Put your noses into this dogshit of predestination and take a good sniff. It is a stinking lie. 
Sure, God will light our path so we can see where we are going, but we have control of our own lives and over which paths we walk. The decisions we make determine our successes and our failures. If we fail, it is our fault, not Gods. God never made a failure. When the devil attacks, he likes nothing more than to watch people lie down and die. That is why he weakens us with such lies. He doesn't like it when people stand up and fight back, it defeats his purposes. If he can get us to just accept defeat because we think it was meant to be, then he wins and we lose.  
This lie has the power to destroy entire races and civilisations. Your life is yours to live so be careful with what you think was meant to be. We all grow up in the devil's world and grow up exposed to his filthy language, but that's no excuse for your thoughts to be contrary to God's word. Put your televisions and newspapers and religious mythology aside, open your bibles again and put your hearts into the word.  
Romans 10:17 So then faith [believing] cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.  
Be watchful, because predestination is the language of extinction.  
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Aside from the new birth; freewill is the greatest thing that God has ever given! The adversary's ministry is to blind, first and foremost; then it is all downhill from there. That opens one up to many lies; the counterfeit, unto many sorrows and regrets. This is how the adversary cleverly tricked Adam and Eve. It all started with doubt after they ignorantly engage with the damned bird! By the way folk; spiritually dead, yet NOT brain dead, hopefully now!! Take it or leave it, yet please choose wisely: Ephesians 1:13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Predestination: 
 God knows ahead of time who is going to believe His Word. Therefore, God calls them according to His eternal purpose (to have a family). God knew ahead of time (foreknowledge) that you and I would believe. Consequently, God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Predestination is a very misunderstood concept. God does not pre-arrange what you and I are going to do!!! God pre-arranged or predestinated that which HE was going to do as a result of our believing. God decided (according to HIS purpose) that HE WOULD GIVE US holy spirit making us His children. Predestination in the Word of God is God deciding ahead of time what He is going to do - not what we are going to do. Again, God does not pre-arrange what you and I are going to do!!!
 In the beginning, as we have stated, God decided to "allow" or "permit" the possibility of evil in order to make possible an unforced response of genuine goodness and love. If something contrary to His will happens, it is because God cannot at that moment stop it without going against His own nature. How could that be? We believe there are three very good reasons. First, because although He is the most powerful One in the war, His righteous nature requires Him to act justly toward His formidable foe, the Devil. Second, He cannot usurp anyone's personal freedom of will. Third, His justice requires Him to allow people to experience the consequences of disobedience.
 Lucifer has NO rights to God's word, hence he is trespassing in promoting his junk of counterfeit lies, using the script of God, to administer the darkness, masquerading as if to be light. We need to tell him to get your own fucking word, and promote, your own fucking word, therefore. Again, NO trespassing, sure!

How Will Believers Be Present With The Lord?

The Church and Israel are two distinct groups with whom God has a divine plan. The church is a mystery, unrevealed in the Old Testament. This present mystery age intervenes within the program of God for Israel because of Israel’s rejection of the Messiah at His first advent. This mystery program must be completed before God can resume His program with Israel and bring it to completion. These considerations all arise from the literal method of interpretation. Other rapture views deny or weaken the dispensational distinction by placing the Church in the Tribulation which is otherwise noted as “the time of Jacob’s trouble [the Tribulation].”
I Thessalonians Paul’s first epistle to the Thessalonians has much to say about the issue at hand. The most popular passage, of course, is found in I Thessalonians 4:13-18. The event described here includes a return of Christ in the air (not to the earth as the Second Coming is described in Zechariah 14:1-5 and Revelation 19:11-21), a resurrection of the dead in Christ, a rapture of living believers, and a reunion with those who have died in Christ. Paul penned these verses in order to clarify a misunderstanding that the Thessalonians embraced concerning the relationship between the resurrection and the saints who were asleep in Christ to the rapture. The question is this: Does the death of a believer before the Lord comes cause him to lose all hope of sharing in the glorious reign of Christ? Paul’s answer is a reassuring affirmation that the living at the time of the rapture have no advantage over those believers who have died. Those who sleep will be raised to reign with those who remain. Both groups will share in the kingdom. If Paul and the Thessalonians were speaking of a rapture at the end of the Tribulation, it seems illogical that they would sorrow over believers who were fortunate enough to die and miss the horrible judgments that await these last years.

Paul anticipated, “to be absent from the body and present with the Lord.”? 2Cor 5:8. Does this say that to be absent from the body is to be immediately with the Lord? No. The time between death and the out-resurrection will seem, to those who die, to pass in an instant. For this reason Paul could covet death knowing that from his perspective the next thing He would know is being with Christ. In the context Paul speaks of three states: 1. Clothed in the body 2. Unclothed 3. Clothed with our Heavenly body. Paul did not want to be “unclothed” (dead) but clothed in the Heavenly body. When will we be clothed in our immortal body? Paul taught “that this mortal will “PUT ON (be clothed with) immortality” when the dead rise at the Second Coming (1Cor 51-55). How do the dead in Christ get to be present with the Lord? By the out-resurrection (1Thess 16-17). Indeed, the Apostle Paul was anticipating the return of Christ in his lifetime, as do we now. Now:
The rapture, which is pre-trib, is not technically a resurrection, for all, in the group, born again believers, are not dead, as some remain alive, therefore the word of God refers to this as an out-resurrection, as only some are resurrected, of that group! no rapture/gathering together mentioned in O.T./ Gospels/ Revelation, sure:
THE GENEVA BIBLE AND SIX PRIOR BIBLES BEFORE KING JAMES USED THE WORD " A DEPARTING" OR "DEPARTURE" INSTEAD OF A "FALLING AWAY" IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3.
Greek - "he apostasia" means THE Departure - from the circumference of a circle, directed outward, away from the circle.
NOTE "A DEPARTING"COMES FIRST, "AND THAT THAT MAN OF SIN WILL BE DISCLOSED". DON'T FORGET IT ALSO SAYS “NOW YOU KNOW WHAT WITH HOLDITH" AND "HE WHO LETS SHALL LET TILL HE BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY." WHAT OR WHO DO YOU BELIEVE WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY? IT MAKES ALSO MAKES NO SENSE THAT PAUL WOULD TELL A VERY NEW AND SMALL CHURCH IN THESSALONIA, THAT A SIGN OF BEGINNING OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION WOULD BE A FALLING AWAY FROM THE CHURCH WHEN THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE MANY CHRISTIANS THERE TO FALL AWAY. ALSO HE WAS REFERRING TO SOMETHING HE HAD TOLD THEM ABOUT BEFORE. WHAT HAD HE PREVIOUSLY TOLD THEM? 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE HE TOLD THEM ABOUT “A DEPARTING OR DEPARTURE” THEN A FALLING AWAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT PAUL DID NOT DESCRIBE “A GREAT FALLING AWAY” AT ALL AND ACTUALLY SAID IN 1TIMOTHY 4:1 THAT ONLY “SOME SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH” 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; SO ALTHOUGH HE BELIEVED EVEN THEN, THE TIMES WERE EVIL, HE DID NOT EXPECT A GREAT FALLING AWAY OF BELIEVERS BUT THAT THE EVIL WOULD GET WORSE. 2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. AND TO THE CORINTHIANS PAUL SAID THIS: 1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
OTHER TRANSLATIONS THAT USED DEPARTING OR DEPARTURE. The first seven English translations of apostasia all rendered the noun as either " departure" or " departing." They are: the Wycliffe Bible (1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1535); Cranmer Bible (1539); Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608).
Bible study to bless the saints of the "Body of Christ".
Be sure to look at all of the verses in this study.
The Body of Christ will not go through Israel’s tribulation. To begin with, Israel and the Body of Christ are not the same. Neither are God’s plans for them. God’s plan for Israel concerns Christ returning to earth in a spectacular event called the Revelation – to inaugurate His Kingdom in Jerusalem (Matt. 24-25; Rev. 19-20. This plan was “spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began” (Acts 3:21; see Luke 1:70). God’s plan for the Body of Christ is completely different. It concerns our heavenly inheritance, not an earthly kingdom. Jesus revealed this program to Paul only as a mystery “kept secret since the world began” (Rom. 16:25; see Eph. 3:3-9). In that it began as a mystery, it will likewise disappear in a mystery called the Rapture; an any moment event whereby Jesus returns for us in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-17), snatches us from earth, and takes us back to Heaven with Him as He promised (John 14:2-3) – when “the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” (Rom. 11:25). Then comes “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jer. 30:7; see Dan. 12:1; Zeph. 1:15) – aka tribulation. The tribulation - as it is most commonly known (Moses: Deut. 4:30; Jesus: Matt. 24:21, 29; John: Rev. 7:14) - is part of God’s earthly program for Israel. It is also called “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jer. 30:7; Dan. 12:1; Zeph. 1:15), Daniel’s Seventieth Week (Dan. 9:26-27), and “the hour of temptation” (Rev. 3:10. It has no bearing on the mystery Body of Christ, which will be gone before it begins. From the beginning it was prophesied to Israel (Deut. 4:30), and thus is primarily for Israel (Jer. 30-31; Dan. 12:1, Zeph. 1:15; Matt. 24:21, 29). Its purpose is to punish sin and sinners (Jer. 30-31; Zeph. 1; Joel; Rev. 6-19), and prepare earth and Israel for the Revelation of the Messiah and the Jewish (Millennial) Kingdom promised to David in perpetuity through Covenant (2 Sam. 7:8-16), and sealed with an oath (Psa. 89:3-4, 20-37; see Luke 1:31-33). While the prophets revealed the tribulation as a horrific but integral component in the Day of the Lord (Isa. 2:12, etc ), it was Daniel’s prophecy where its duration was revealed as the final week of seven years in his seventy week prophecy for Israel (Dan. 9:24-27; see Rev. 11:2-3; 12:14). To wit, while we can easily find Israel and the anti-Semitic Gentile nations on earth during “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jer. 30:7; Dan. 12:1; Zeph. 1:15), the heavenly Body of Christ - which has been promised deliverance from this divine punishment (1 Thess. 1:10; 5:9; 2 Thess. 2:5-7;) - is conspicuously absent (Rev. 2-19). There isn’t a prophecy or a single verse anywhere in the Bible conclusively identifying the Body of Christ on earth during Israel’s tribulation without pulling from context and redefining the words “saints” and “elect” - which in Daniel, the Olivet Discourse, and Revelation specifically refer to Israel. In lieu of these factors and others we are convinced that the Body of Christ will not go through Israel’s tribulation!
 We know that death still has a sting, that the corruptible has not yet put on incorruption and that the mortal has not yet put on immortality.  But we also know that our enemy death will be destroyed and that the dead in Christ shall rise and we who are alive shall be changed and that we will meet  our lord in the air and forever be with him.  What a glorious day that will be!